Sara O'Leary, author of the award-winning picture book When You Were Small .
STEPH: Can you tell me a little bit about your background as a writer? From Google I know (or I think I know) that you:
1) are currently teaching Creative Writing at Concordia University in Montreal
2) have an MFA from the University of British Columbia
3) were the books columnist for The Vancouver Sun and on Freestyle, a CBC Radio One show
4) are widely published here in Canada as a literary journalist
5) have published at least two works of fiction for adults
6) have won awards for your playwrighting
7) have already written the sequel to When You Were Small
8) have written a YA novel with your oldest son
Is it fair to ask what kind of writing you prefer? Did you always want to write for children or did the desire come out of having children of your own?
SARA: I've been writing since I was young (she says, realising that she no longer is). Studied poetry as a teenager with people like Patrick Lane and Lorna Crozier , then fell into fiction and had a dalliance with postcard stories, followed by flirtations with playwriting and screenwriting. Once I had children of my own it seemed a logical progression to start writing children's stories. I'm still writing fiction but I'm also doing more writing for children – including writing a YA novel with my son Liam. It's called Malone Alone and is about a boy whose parents take him from Vancouver to a little village on the Bay of Fundy. Which is exactly what happened to Liam. Only in the novel, the boy's parents are sucked into a time portal and vanish. Which didn't actually happen to us when we moved to St. Martin's although we did feel like we'd travelled back in time when we were told there was no high speed internet in the village.
As far as what genre I prefer, I'd probably be better off if I did have stronger tendencies in one direction. I often feel that rather than being like Sisyphus pushing his boulder up the mountain, I am frantically trying to keep a number of smaller rocks rolling in unison. I love fiction, all forms of fiction. Writing the novel with my son has been great fun, but now that it's done I'm going back to a collection of short stories I have underway.
STEPH: Have you always wanted to be a writer?
SARA: Except for the times when I desperately wished to be almost anything else.
STEPH: How is writing fiction for adults different from writing it for children?
SARA: I think the main difference is in the perception, actually. People seem to think that writing for children is much, much easier than writing for adults. Which it is not. And I have a pet peeve about bad writing being passed off as appropriate for YA novels. Like they aren't going to be able to tell the difference.
STEPH: I read in one of your reviews (of the Alexander McCall Smith's No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency
books) that when you were reading the Nancy Drew
books as a child, you wanted to be Nancy Drew. And that, at a certain point, reading about Mma Ramotswe as an adult, you felt the same way. I love that. What were some of your favourite books as a child? What are some of your favourite books for children now? And what are some of your favourites for adults?
SARA: That's a huge question and I could go on all day about favourite books for children. I will say that I've always been a huge fan of Maurice Sendak's books and I think the world would be a much colder place without Max
and the Wild Things. And it's lovely reading books to your own children that you remember having read to you – my mother saved my Alice and my Mother Goose and other things which has been lovely. And I can still read Dr. Seuss with my eyes shut.
New books: I love anything Oliver Jeffers does
does and we're besotted with Ian Falconer's Olivia
books - I sort of want to be Olivia these days. We're also big fans of the series of books by Robin Mitchell and Judith Steed that my publisher did. They are about these little doll characters named Sunny
and Windy. There are others too but I have a hard time remembering which ones are theirs and which ones my son made up. I think Rainy is the one that he made from a clothes pin and some felt and then made his own book. Which leads me to Euan O'Leary – another of my favourite authors.
For older kids, I loved the Lemony Snicket
books and for anybody else who did I would also recommend Philip Ardagh, a British author with a fantastic sense of humour. The Fall of Fergal
is one of his. Philip Pullman
, Eoin Colfer
, and Marcus Sedgwick
are all good. I seem to be reading more boy books because of what comes into the house.There are some very scary books by a fellow named Joseph Delaney
which we liked. Also an Englishwoman named Michelle Paver I interviewed last year who has done a series of novels called Wolf Brother
.My son is addicted to the Ian MacKellan cd versions
of the books. Susan Juby, whose Alice
books I love, has a new book out called Another Kind of Cowboy
which is very, very good. I have just read a book called Very Serious Children by my friend Caroline Adderson and it was very funny – about two little boys with circus clowns for parents who try to run away to small-town Saskatchewan to have a normal life where they can do things like eat vegetables.
Adult books, hmm. I just read a fantastic new book called The Outlander
by Gil Adamson. Published by Anansi and it was the first thing I'd read in ages that really felt fresh to me. Also just read the new A.L. Kennedy novel, Day
, and … well, would have to go look under my bed to tell you what else. I want to read that Margaret Wise Brown bio that you've been talking about – maybe I can find something to offer in trade. I miss writing a weekly column because for years I had a steady influx of new books. I got kind of spoilt.
STEPH: I read that you got the idea for When You Were Small from a family joke. Can you tell me about that?